Venice Unleashed

Awesome job, but cant you just port the bots from Onslaught if you had access to the 360/PS3 files?

mizudg wrote:Awesome job, but cant you just port the bots from Onslaught if you had access to the 360/PS3 files?

Yes i could do that, but first i have to know how the bots system works, so i will keep working with these guys until i understand most of the system, then i will try to port, keep in mind that i can't copy paste the code just like that, i will have to reconstruct what they did on onslaught manually like i am doing it now, but there is still much to learn.

1: Make bots work
2: Put bots in the imported jets
3: Let the bots fly the jets and help their team a little, depending on their score
4: ???
5: Profit!


Jokes aside, good job already
Do they have any function yet? or are they just "lifeless" models?

mizudg wrote:Awesome job, but cant you just port the bots from Onslaught if you had access to the 360/PS3 files?

In order for AI behaviors to properly work in multiplayer you have to do a couple of things.
First of all you need to generate the required behavior data for the specified level (which is fairly easy and the game can do that for you itself).
Though, the second thing you need is pathfinding data.
Pathfinding in BC2 uses some early version of the Kynapse proprietary software from Autodesk, which requires special tools and procedures in order to actually generate such data for a specific map.
Onslaught does contain pathfinding data, however I'm not sure whether it is in the same format the PC version expects it.

RobbingHood wrote:1: Make bots work
2: Put bots in the imported jets
3: Let the bots fly the jets and help their team a little, depending on their score
4: ???
5: Profit!


Jokes aside, good job already
Do they have any function yet? or are they just "lifeless" models?

Yes they have basic functions, (walking, body animation, facial animations, and screaming)
i like your idea btw.

NoFaTe wrote:

mizudg wrote:Awesome job, but cant you just port the bots from Onslaught if you had access to the 360/PS3 files?

In order for AI behaviors to properly work in multiplayer you have to do a couple of things.
First of all you need to generate the required behavior data for the specified level (which is fairly easy and the game can do that for you itself).
Though, the second thing you need is pathfinding data.
Pathfinding in BC2 uses some early version of the Kynapse proprietary software from Autodesk, which requires special tools and procedures in order to actually generate such data for a specific map.
Onslaught does contain pathfinding data, however I'm not sure whether it is in the same format the PC version expects it.

Thanks by the aclaration, this special tools have name or any way to get it? i will try the cosole files anyway

emi-liano wrote:

NoFaTe wrote:

mizudg wrote:Awesome job, but cant you just port the bots from Onslaught if you had access to the 360/PS3 files?

In order for AI behaviors to properly work in multiplayer you have to do a couple of things.
First of all you need to generate the required behavior data for the specified level (which is fairly easy and the game can do that for you itself).
Though, the second thing you need is pathfinding data.
Pathfinding in BC2 uses some early version of the Kynapse proprietary software from Autodesk, which requires special tools and procedures in order to actually generate such data for a specific map.
Onslaught does contain pathfinding data, however I'm not sure whether it is in the same format the PC version expects it.

Thanks by the aclaration, this special tools have name or any way to get it? i will try the cosole files anyway

Unless you have a license from Autodesk, no.

Updates:
Now bots have hostile behaviour! and they are very angry.
You can spawn on bots position if you are a squad member.
problems:
No pathfinding data yet, so they doesn't change positions voluntarily, they only walk if you gently move them with a vehicle.
After a bot dies, he changes team twice, to go back to his original team.
The server doesn't recognize bot's rank.
Besides from that, everything seems to be perfect.

emi-liano wrote:Updates:
Now bots have hostile behaviour! and they are very angry.
You can spawn on bots position if you are a squad member.
problems:
No pathfinding data yet, so they doesn't change positions voluntarily, they only walk if you gently move them with a vehicle.
After a bot dies, he changes team twice, to go back to his original team.
The server doesn't recognize bot's rank.
Besides from that, everything seems to be perfect.

Bot dies and changes team twice... So does the team lose any additional tickets or.. ?