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mrpugster
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Dedicated server with slow internet

Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:42 pm

hi chaps

Just a quick question. I want to host my own dedicated server for 4 of us who live in the same house, however our Internet is real slow - like out in the sticks.

I know LAN hasn't been implemented yet but what would the situation be with the dedicated server, I'm assuming the traffic from each client must go out onto the Internet but since the server is local would this not make things a little quicker? Or is there simply no way round the fact that the server has an internet IP rather than a local one.

Hope that makes it clear :-) Sorry just excited to play ....

Many thanks for all your hard work btw

WarBeast-GT-
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:14 pm

For each user you need 50kBit/s up- and downstream. So for 4 you need at least 200kBit/s.

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RobbingHood
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:21 pm

Every dedicated server has to connect to the masterserver.

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dgudovic
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:52 am

mrpugster wrote:hi chaps

Just a quick question. I want to host my own dedicated server for 4 of us who live in the same house, however our Internet is real slow - like out in the sticks.

I know LAN hasn't been implemented yet but what would the situation be with the dedicated server, I'm assuming the traffic from each client must go out onto the Internet but since the server is local would this not make things a little quicker? Or is there simply no way round the fact that the server has an internet IP rather than a local one.

Hope that makes it clear :-) Sorry just excited to play ....

Many thanks for all your hard work btw

How slow? If its less then 300 kb/s dont bother you gonna lag like shit just find an empty server, there are plenty of empty servers on each map/gamemode ....
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Garrett(Pooria)
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:34 am

WarBeast-GT- wrote:For each user you need 50kBit/s up- and downstream. So for 4 you need at least 200kBit/s.

each user sends something about 4 Kbytes/sec to server I'd say and it goes higher if it's in a vehicle such as tank I think, so server needs that amount of downstream per second concerning each player BUT amount of upstream per second that server will have regarding a particular user can be calculated by following expression with a good precision as far as I've figured out:
first note that server sends some data per second to any client to express things like it's up and online, confirmation of receiving client actions and maybe other thinks I have missed so we take this kind of data sent to that particular user as C, then we take number of players inside the server as A and amount of downstream per second used respecting the particular user as B, SO finally the expression will be -> (A-1)*B+C

By the way how are you connected to internet, you're all behind a router?

mrpugster
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:53 pm

thanks for all the replies, Garrett, I'm behind a router.

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Kerrigan
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:16 am

Both clients and server are connected to the master server passively.

But the communitcation between dedicated server and game client is direct if they are hosted in a local network.
I did it myself. The pings were under 20.

As long NoFaTe doesnt find / implement a solution for offline playing you have to connect both to the Plasma.
Due to the connection being only passive for all clients not that much traffic is used.

Most of the traffic will be caused within the 100 / 1000 MBit LAN network which can handle that very easily.

young-killer
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:59 am

So the short answer is: This is possible, as long as everyone is connected to the internet ... right?

Cheers from Iceland.

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Kerrigan
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:51 am

young-killer wrote:So the short answer is: This is possible, as long as everyone is connected to the internet ... right?

Cheers from Iceland.



Obviously ._.

mrpugster
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Re: Dedicated server with slow internet

Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:38 pm

Kerrigan wrote:Both clients and server are connected to the master server passively.

But the communitcation between dedicated server and game client is direct if they are hosted in a local network.
I did it myself. The pings were under 20.

As long NoFaTe doesnt find / implement a solution for offline playing you have to connect both to the Plasma.
Due to the connection being only passive for all clients not that much traffic is used.

Most of the traffic will be caused within the 100 / 1000 MBit LAN network which can handle that very easily.


Hey Kerrigan, thanks for the clear explanation. I'm going to go ahead and install this again and give it a whirl.

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